Brasilien: Isolierter Indianerstamm im Dschungel entdeckt

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01.06.2008 00:18
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Zitat von Esperanto2
Zitat von dirk_71
Nicht zu vergessen sind die kommunistischen Zivilisationen, welche sich auch nicht gerade mit Ruhm bekleckert haben.
Wenn ich mir unter Anderem deren ökologische Bilanz so anschaue, wäre bei einer Fortsetzung die Welt schon zugrunde gerichtet.

Woher willst Du wissen, dass die jetzt entdeckten Indianer nicht nach den kommunistischen Idealen leben?


Sollen sie doch wenn sie so glücklich sind, allerdings schützen sie ihre Umwelt bestimmt besser. Denn ohne die würden sie nicht lange überleben, das haben uns schon andere Naturvölker gezeigt.

Nos vemos
Dirk

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01.06.2008 00:43 (zuletzt bearbeitet: 01.06.2008 00:45)
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Zitat von dirk_71
allerdings schützen sie ihre Umwelt bestimmt besser. Denn ohne die würden sie nicht lange überleben, ....

Sollten sie sich also noch das kommunistischen Ideal "Keine Ausbeutung des Menschen durch den Menschen" zu eigen gemacht haben, dann müßten sie glücklich sein und könnten in Frieden so weiterleben.

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01.06.2008 07:18 (zuletzt bearbeitet: 01.06.2008 07:19)
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Jivaro: The Tribe of the Shrunken Heads

The Jivaro are amongst the most famous tribes of the Amazon area, due to their habits of
shrinking the heads of the enemies killed in war. The Jivaro tribes inhabit an area larger
than Switzerland on the eastern slopes of the Andes, in Ecuador, Brazil and Peru, in one of
the densest rain forests.

[...]

The war combativeness and aggressiveness of the Jivaro make them feared and hated by
neighboring tribes. Still, Jivaro mainly practice inter-tribal wars.

[...]

The Jivaro villages are made of very large huts, up to 20 m (66 ft) in length, and oval.
Around the walls the beds of the family members are placed and a cooking fire is lighted in
the center. The hut has two doors: a principal door for men and a back door for women.

[...]

Jivaro women were treated with harshness and scorn by their husbands; the sons, when
grown a little, were taken to live with their fathers. Each man had several wives, of whom
some were just slaves, won after defeating an enemy group, as all the men of the defeated

[...]

When a Jivaro warrior killed an enemy, the head of the latter was cut off and brought to the
jivaria, where the other members receive him with pride and joy. A series of rites ensured
the warrior was not empowered with the soul of the dead enemy, believed to inhabit his
head. The main rite is txantxa, the reduction of the cut head for a better conservation and
exhibition. The skin and meat were separated from the skull, considered useless. The skin
was boiled in a special pot, with the juice of various vines and grasses that made the skin to
shrink. Once cooked, the head was left to dry, then it was filled with hot stones, which
further shrank it. Subsequently, hot sand is placed inside and the features are modeled so
that they resemble as much as possible the dead enemy. The lips were sewed with cords
and on the closed eyelids pegs were applied. When finished, the head had the size of an
orange. On the top of the head small cords were sewed, so that the head could be hung as
a trophy at the belt of the winner or on the roof of his hut.


Na dann Mahlzeit, bei solch idyllischen Sitten und Gebräuchen aus dem Amazonas-Regenwald ...


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01.06.2008 08:00
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Woher willst Du wissen, dass die jetzt entdeckten Indianer nicht nach den kommunistischen Idealen leben?


Yanomamo:

THE INFERIORITY OF PRIMITIVE SOCIETIES C...OF THE YANOMAMO

Like other tribal peoples, the Yanomamo know nothing of ‘primitive communism’. Although the shabono looks like a communal dwelling, in fact each family builds, inhabits and owns its own house, producing the ‘one building’ effect by extending the common roof to cover it. Each man clears his own land and cultivates it himself although chiefs, who have to produce more to meet their obligation to provide hospitality, may receive help.

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http://www.answers.com/topic/yanomami

Violence

More than a third of the Yanomamo males, on average, died from warfare.[4] Men who participated in killings had more wives and children than those who did not.[5] Some Yanomamo men, however, reflected on the futility of their feuds and made it known that they would have nothing to do with the raiding.[5] These findings, originally reported by Chagnon, have been empirically replicated several times.[6]

The accounts of missionaries to the area have recounted constant infighting in the tribes for women or prestige, and evidence of continuous warfare for the enslavement of neighboring tribes such as the Macu before the arrival of European settlers and government.

Violence among the Yanomami is often domestic, with women commonly beaten by their husbands in disputes. [7] Justifiably or not, their violent reputation has also seeped into popular culture. The food critic Jeffrey Steingarten characterized the Yanomami people as "a bunch of bloodthirsty maniacs," whimsically speculating that their purportedly brutal behavior might be attributed to a deficiency of table salt. [8]. This reputation for violence also extended to the fictionalised depiction of the tribe in Ruggero Deodato's controversial film Cannibal Holocaust.


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01.06.2008 10:37
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hattu schön kopiert! wer an den edlen Wilden glaubt <- da haben wirs wieder - Glauben ist das Gegenteil von Wissen! ist fern jeder Realität. Aber wer ohne Schuld, werfe den ersten Stein...

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"Ehrenmänner lesen nicht die Post anderer Leute" - Henry L. Stimson US-Außenminister 1929


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